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Positraction additive - GM or not? (1/15)
 3/26/03 5:00am
Theo
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I'm planning to refill my diff very soon, and spoke to a guy at the garage where i bought my vette from, about supplying some GM LSD additive. They don't sell the actual stuff, but he reckons the stuff they do sell (a ready mixed oil that you just fill up with) would be fine.
I guess what I'm after from you guys is a second opinion. Sorry, I don't know the actual make or type of oil that he's offering, other than that it's obviously some type of general "one size fits all" LSD oil. What would people recommend? Are the vette diffs that different to any other Limited Slip Diff, and would i therefore be wise to hold out for the correct type of gunk to put in? Or, has anyone had trouble free running with any other type of oil?
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Positraction additive - GM or not? (2/15)
 3/26/03 7:04am
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only cost $4.50 from the dealer. not worth the chance. Though the other stuff may be fine. When i changed mine I didn't even consider using anything else but the GM posi fluid additive.

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (3/15)
 3/26/03 7:27am
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Hey Garry,

Yeah, it's not really the cost that worries me, as i know the proper stuff is pretty cheap - my problem may be getting hold of it in the first place! I admit i haven't looked into it that deeply yet, but i wonder if UK GM (Vauxhall) dealers would carry it. I can't think of many british GM cars that would use an LSD - they're all a bit weedy! Still, I'll give my local Vauxhall dealer a ring today and see if they don't say "a corvette?! get yourself a sensible car mate!"
Do you have a part/product number for the stuff, garry, so i could check if i'm ordering the exact same stuff?

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (4/15)
 3/26/03 8:21am
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POSI ADDITIVE -- GM PART # 1052358


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Positraction additive - GM or not? (5/15)
 3/26/03 9:11am
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Thanks for taking the time to have a look at the part no.....

Just phoned my local Vauxhall dealer, and they do a limited slip diff additive, which the guy reckons they use in the workshop. I imagine that means its a GM product, maybe even the same stuffas what you guys use. However, the part no. you found must be US only, as he couldn't bring it up on his computer with that number.
How much do you put in with the oil? I've read "one 4 oz. bottle" and "one, preferably two bottles" in other threads..

Apparently the bottle i'm talking about is 500 millilitres, which is closer to 18 oz.

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (6/15)
 3/26/03 8:28pm
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You can get it from Ecklers, add it to your order of other things. Thats what I did. Went in for a $4 part and came out with $159 of other parts that I couldn't live without. (ecklers.com if you don't have a catalog) |saluteflag|

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (7/15)
 3/27/03 5:10am
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thanks guys..
Yeah, got signed up for the eckler's catalogue not long after i bought my vette. Not used them yet, but the catalogue makes a really good read in itself!

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (8/15)
 3/28/03 4:44am
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Picked up the GM UK diff additive today, but one question still remains... how much to use?

Having said the other day that it was a 500 ml bottle, it turns out to be 50 ml. I have an old chilton's manual that came with the car, that runs up to '79. They say 4 fl oz. (about 110ml) But i know GM changed the diff carrier for my year, 1980. Does this mean the capacity is any different, or should i stick with 4 oz. (and get another bottle!) Any of you 1980+ guys and girls have any advice to share?

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (9/15)
 3/28/03 9:31pm
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Hi Theo ,, I always add two bottles of the additive .

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (10/15)
 3/30/03 3:04pm
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Hi Theo , I checked the bottles out and they are 4 oz. each . All differential rebuilds I do I add the two bottles . I really do not know much about some of the other after market additives ,and so I really cannot comment on them . The breakaway point on the stock clutches is rather on the stiff side . That is the reason I install the extra additive , it has no detrimental effect to the operation of the clutches .

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (11/15)
 3/30/03 11:44pm
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What do you mean by "breakaway point on the stock clutches is rather on the stiff side"? I'm not familiar with the internal workings of posi-traction. |headscratch|

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (12/15)
 3/31/03 4:51am
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Geo,
Thanks for checking that out...
The stuff i have is a real GM part, direct from the local UK GM (Vauxhall) dealers. It's only 50 ml, (about 2 oz), so it looks like i may need a couple more bottles. It's only a couple of pounds a bottle anyway..
Thanks for the info....

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 3/31/03 12:14pm
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Rick I am refering to the point where the axles can turn independently of each other . As when you drive around corners etc. That tends to be a bit tough on rear tires , and not a really desireable characteristic in the wet etc.


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Positraction additive - GM or not? (14/15)
 4/22/03 12:53am
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The way it was explained to me when I totally overhauled the rear suspension was to put in one bottle, drive the car in tight circles and listen to the rear end. If it makes a chirp/snap sort of a noise, then add half of the second bottle. I've got 1 3.08 which was removed from the car for new seals and inspection / rebuilding. It didn't need anything other than some cleanup and new seals (whew as I blew the budget on other stuff!). Car has 56k miles on it. I added the first bottle of posi-additive from GM and haven't needed to add any more. I've read feedback from folks on other boards that the aftermarket additives do not have quite the same characteristics as the GM additive and hence require More additive for the same effect. My understanding is that you want to maximize the rear end oil, not the additive. ;) ~Juliet

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Positraction additive - GM or not? (15/15)
 4/22/03 5:45am
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Thanks Juliet,
The stuff i have is a GM product, only it's made by GM of europe/UK. That means it would be intended to be used in the european "versions" of GM cars, like Vauxhalls and Opels. But I would imagine it is exactly the same as the product you guys could buy in the states.
I've just got to get around to putting it in now!

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