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Headlights quit working (1/19)
 9/30/06 6:42pm
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Headlights quit working. Put it in the garage in the evening, the next morning the lights come up but they don't come on. Nothing, no high beam no low. All of the rest of the lights are working, side lamps, parking lights, dash lights, but no headlights.
 
I did notice that the other lights tended to flicker every couple of seconds and the tach would jump at the same time.  With the engine off and the
light switch on I can hear a ticking in the dash near the light switch. The ticking coinsides with the flicker of the lights that are working.
 
Toggling between highbeam and lowbeam has no affect on the headlights and neither does wiggling or twisting the light switch.
 
Anyone ever experienced this problem?
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Headlights quit working (2/19)
 9/30/06 7:24pm
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1) Fuse link blown
2) Headlight switch bad
3) Wiring loose at the starter. This one is the least likely scenario, but it could happen.

The headlights are powered thru a fuse-link from the starter. The other lights(tail/turn/dash) are all protected by different fuses in the fuse-box itself.

Does the horn work? Wiring diagram show the same power for the horn powers the headlights, but it does not show if there is a fuse-link before or after the relay.

There are also a couple of fuse-links coming off of the alternator, that power several systems. It could very well be one of those.Adams' Apple2006-09-30 19:28:32

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Headlights quit working (3/19)
 9/30/06 7:34pm
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I have not checked the horn.  I will give it a try tomorrow.  Thanks for the info
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Headlights quit working (4/19)
 10/1/06 6:09am
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You might also check to see if your battery connections are clean and tight after you check the list Joel gave you.  If you have side screw in connectors, they sometimes crack inside the battery and will show up the way you are describing.

Won't hurt to check!
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Headlights quit working (5/19)
 10/1/06 7:46am
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Recently had a near identical issue. I agree with all of the above with checking the wires to make sure that everything is nice and snug. If still no lights, I would check to make sure you have power going into the switch.
 
The power to the headlights actually comes from a heavy guage red wire going into the headlight switch. I had a breakage at the bulkhead block and there was no power going into the switch.
 
If you do have power at the red wire and no power coming out when the switch is pulled, switch is most likely the culprit.Angry
 
Also, the ticking and flickering that you hear in the vicinity of the switch also points to a possible short in the switch - which I believe has an internal breaker. I'd be careful - that ticking could wind up roasting your potatoes!!Shocked
 
Do you have a 75 wiring diagram? Don't know how different it is from a 79 - contact member Warbird or Adams' Apple (in this thread) - they were kind enough to provide electronic copies to membersClap. This will help you bigtime.Wink
 
Let us know how you progress. Good luck. Tongue
 
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Headlights quit working (6/19)
 10/1/06 8:44am
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Thanx, Paul...I didn't read all of the sympthoms listed! I apparently MISSED this "ticking around the heaglight switch area"!!(it was late when I read it!)
That would definitely be a bad switch. There is a breaker circuit built into the switch, and it will trip if there is an overload condition on that circuit, be it from a short, or even too many lights, or lights that use more amperage than the switch is designed for.
Usually, when the switch trips for a short in the wiring, it will reset after it cools down, and the process will start all over. If the thing is flickering/ticking quickly, it is a good indication that the circuit breaker has failed, and is unable to function properly.
Sounds like time for a light switch replacement!

btw...I can absolutely send a wiring diagram...just need an e-mail address. P/M me with that, and I'll send ya one pronto!

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Headlights quit working (7/19)
 10/1/06 9:56am
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Headlights quit working (8/19)
 10/2/06 6:20am
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Thanks to everyone for your help. I am convinced that the switch is the culprit.  I read in another post about lights going off then on as a result of halogen lights drawing too much current and tripping the circuit breaker in the switch.  Yesterday I check the lights again, this time sitting in the car
( last time I was standing over the engine compartment) and the ticking is definitely coming from the switch.

Joel, I would very much like to have a copy of the wiring diagram,
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 10/2/06 6:42am
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When you get ready to go back in with the switch, tighten up the connector on the red wire so that it is a very tight fit onto the blade of the switch.  Mine was loose and overheated the lower hi/lo beam switch.  After chasing this little gremlin, I finally found that tightening up the clip solved the prob!
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 10/2/06 6:53am
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Wirin diagram should be there shortly(no pun intended), Mike!

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Headlights quit working (11/19)
 10/5/06 7:03pm
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Don't replace the switch until you check for a short.  A shorted light circuit will cause the exact problem, with a good switch.  The breaker may be bad, but it may be doing it's job.
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Headlights quit working (12/19)
 10/5/06 7:40pm
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I have a new switch on order, but I will certainly check for a short before installing.  Thanks for the tip
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 10/5/06 7:42pm
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Joel
 
Got the wiring diagram. Really appreciate it.  I printed it on 11 x 17 paper and it is real easy to read.
 
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 10/5/06 8:50pm
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That's a nice car there, Mike!! Those look like the same rims I had on my '74. Sweet!

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Headlights quit working (15/19)
 10/5/06 9:13pm
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Thanks for the comment, but this forum is full of some great looking vetts, yours included.
 
I have had this one about 2 1/2 years. Looked for quite awhile to find a yellow convertible with a manual transmission, then this one showed up for sale right here in St Louis.  It looks good but was hardly driveable when I got it.   Clutch was gone, power steering not working and the interior was full of leaves and paper trash.  It is a high milage car and I still have a long way to go with it, but I really enjoy it.  The next thing on the list is a new steering box and that should be done in the next few weeks.
 
Have enjoyed communicating with you. I am sure I will be back here again looking for more help
 
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Headlights quit working (16/19)
 11/2/06 8:53pm
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Well the head light problem is solved . It turned out to be short and not the switch.  I replaced the switch with no success. I tried tracing wires but I soon realized I did not have the patience for that.
 
Took it to a local shop that repairs and restores old Vetts. Turns out that the short was at the connector block that goes thru the firewall. 
 
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Headlights quit working (17/19)
 12/28/06 10:05am
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Interesting, three of my four lights are out. They flip up w/out a problem and no noise. I'm going to take it to my mechanic, just wanted to know what might be the problem. My horn hasn't worked in a while, but the lights were working.
 
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 12/28/06 8:26pm
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Three out of four is still legal!!

Can we assume it is your headlights? That would be either three bad bulbs, or the connectors on the bulbs. Possibly a ground wire issue, but, that would be the last thing I would look for in this situation.
Try wiggling the connectors with the high-beams on, and see if they work.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to have three bulbs go out at the same time. I've had bulbs stored in boxes here, that worked when they were taken off the car, but didn't when they were put back on!

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Headlights quit working (19/19)
 12/30/06 3:41pm
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]Three out of four is still legal!!

Can we assume it is your headlights? That would be either three bad bulbs, or the connectors on the bulbs. Possibly a ground wire issue, but, that would be the last thing I would look for in this situation.
Try wiggling the connectors with the high-beams on, and see if they work.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to have three bulbs go out at the same time. I've had bulbs stored in boxes here, that worked when they were taken off the car, but didn't when they were put back on! [/QUOTE]
 
 
Sure Joel, I'll use that 1 outta 4 rule with the cops! Might work!Anyway, gonna try wiggling those connectors soon as I look in my book to find them. I'm kinda new with under the hood stuff.
 
Joel, good to hear your mom is showing some improvement. I believe God answers prayers. You see we've all been praying for you, Stay Strong and God Bless.
 
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