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78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (1/13)
 10/31/24 12:05pm
LenWoodruff
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My 78 started running rough when I drove it for the 1st time in a few weeks.

It starts normally. Runs rough even after it warms up.

Anyone else have this issue on an HEI Vette?

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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (2/13)
 10/31/24 1:37pm
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My first questions would be, How old is the gas, and What shape are the plugs and wires in? 



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (3/13)
 10/31/24 3:01pm
LenWoodruff
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The gas is less than a month old. 

The plugs & wire were new when they rebuilt the engine in 2018.

I have only driven it 5-6,000 mile since then.

I was going to check the plugs but I have aluminum heads and the drivers side plugs won't budge. I don't want to strip the threads.

I did check #6 on the passenger side it it was perfect.

Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (4/13)
 10/31/24 10:04pm
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Hey Len,  does that distributor have that electronic module in it that can go bad?

 



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (5/13)
 11/1/24 4:01am
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Len, when you say running "rough", what exactly are the symptoms - rough lumpy idle, lack of power, coughing, backfiring?

F4Gary mentioned the ignition module.  Last year I had a coil fail on our '78.  It started fine and would run nicely with no load on the engine (revving the engine while in neutral etc), but if I attempted any sort of incline it would barely pull, sounding as though it was running on two or three cylinders.   

It may be worth pulling the distributor cap and checking its condition though.  

You may also want to check the choke mechanism, ensure that it is coming off when the car is warm?

Let's know the detail👍

 



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (6/13)
 11/1/24 6:34am
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It does Gary. It could be the problem. Usually when those fail the engine won't run though.

But it is more like it's miss firing on a cylinder.

I was going to check each plug but the ones on the drivers side won't budge. Since I have aluminum heads I did want to risk damaging the threads forcing them out.

Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (7/13)
 11/1/24 7:45am
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I checked the choke and it is opening correctly.

The roughness is throghout the range of driving. It's more noticable at low speeds.

It almost seems like it is a miss-firing cylinder which would lead to a bad plug wire.

Since I can't get all of the plugs out I was thinking about hooking my inductive timimg light to each plug wire to see if 1 wasn't firing.

Does that make any sense?

 



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (8/13)
 11/1/24 8:31am
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Well, connecting the timing light is something I considered on ours once.  I have to assume it would show a misfire, so worth a try!👍



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (9/13)
 11/1/24 8:46am
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I will post the results once I get it done. Maybe that will get us to a solution.

Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (10/13)
 11/1/24 9:26am
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Before your timing light post, I was thinking of one of those gadgets you hook up between the plug wire and the plug that lights up if there is a spark to that plug.



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Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (11/13)
 11/1/24 9:52am
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I don't have one of those Gary. But I think the timing light should at least give me a clue if one wire is not firing.

It be nice to have a computer that would send codes like we have on our C7's. LOL

Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (12/13)
 11/1/24 10:32am
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I checked the 8 plug wires and they all show they are firing.

I will let it cool down and check the cap to see if I can see anything.

Re: 78 Vette HEI Ignition engine started running rough (13/13)
 11/1/24 11:37am
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I took a pic of the cap & rotor. A little pitting on the rotor. Not sure it is enough to cause this issue.

 

 

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