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 1/28/10 2:47pm
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Burke, VT - USA

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Here is the agenda for this years C3VR Gathering, July 14-18 in Bend, Oregon.  After lots of research, soul searching, and negotiating, we have scheduled absolutely fantastic scenic drives and activities whose memories will last a lifetime!  Web sites for all activities have been included.  We encourage all of you to visit the web sites and do a little research to prepare yourselves for a truly remarkable time.  For members who have not yet decided on attending, check out the sites, you just might you'll change your mind.  We have also included a list of optional activities along with web sites, for members who may not plan on participating in all of the scheduled activities.  As there will be many scenic "WOW" moments, do not forget your cameras! 

We will have a meeting room at Shilo to use as a staging area for all events and for all C3VR web site/member business.   Any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to post or send a PM to Larry (RADARB8) or Mike (82Mike).
 
Looking forward to meeting everyone & having the time of our lives!!
 
 

Wednesday - July 14th
  • Meet and Greet Dinner at the Shilo Inn.  (Social Hour 6:00PM - Dinner 7:00PM).
A chance to greet old friends & meet
new friends!!     
Shilo Inn in Bend, OR - photos, reviews, and deals
Private dinner room, 3 main entrees choices, plus salad, rolls, vegetables and desert.
Dinner room will have a wet bar.
Secret Surprises at the Greet & Meet
$20.00-$25.00
(room fee will be waived with 35 people).
 
 
Thursday - July 15th
  • Breakfast/Driver's Meeting at Shilo, (complimentary full breakfast). 
  • 9:00 AM   Cascades Scenic Highway Drive  Lots & lots of High Desert lakes and scenery 
with stop at Mt Bachelor. 
Ride the lift chair, 7700' up.  WOW!!  A KODAK MOMENT!!! ($13.00), to the Pine Mountain Lodge for lunch.  Take in the sights of Three Sisters peaks, Broken Top and the Cascade Lakes.  Behold views of over one million acres of pristine undeveloped land.  At this time of year, the mountain exposes ancient lava flows, wildflowers and year-round snowfields.  A-la-cart lunch, burgers, brats, pizza, salad, soup or vegetarian, $10.00-15.00
After lunch at Mt Bachelor, continue the drive.  Depending on the sight seeing, the drive could be 4-5+ hours with the lunch break.
After lunch at Mt Bachelor, continue the drive.  Depending on the sight seeing, the drive could be 4-5+ hours with the lunch break.
 
  • 5:30 PM    Tour at Deschutes Brewery,  
about 1-1/2 hour tour,  with stop in Mountain Room, an outside deck with Spectacular Views of the Cascade Mountains, and free beer...!!!
After tour members can go off on their own.  There are always live music venues in the old downtown, art galleries, restaurants and even a few micro breweries.
 
 
Friday - July 16th
  • Breakfast/Driver's Meeting at Shilo 
  • 9:00 AM    Drive to Crater Lake.   Crater Lake - Like No Place Else on Earth 
ABSOLUTELY A KODAK "WOW" MOMENT
  DON'T FORGET THE CAMERAS!!!!
Crater Lake........ What more can you say...
This would be a good 7 hour drive (2 hour drive down, 2 hours sight seeing & drive around lake, 1 hour lunch break & 2 hour drive back to Bend).  Plans are to stop on the way back to Bend at the Mohawk Restaurant in Crescent.  This is the restaurant we stopped at on our drive down to Carson City in 2007.  Pretty interesting place.....(Jackalope, 2 headed sheep, etc...)
www.therealoregon.com/2008/01/01/mohawk-restaurant-lounge
 
 
Friday/Saturday - July 16th/17th
  • Corvettes On The High Dessert    Hosted by the High Desert Corvette Club of Central Oregon.  This year the event will be located in Sisters, OR.  Steve (wetvet) is the C3VR contact person for this activity and has been coordinating with the HDCC.  
 
 
Saturday - July 17th
  • Breakfast/Driver's Meeting at Shilo 
Drive to Sisters, a charming 1880's theme town, 
www.el.com/to/sisters  (20+ minutes), to join up with the High Desert Corvette Club for their 'Corvettes on the High Desert' car show.  Steve (wetvet) has several posts under the Gathering, regarding the days events in Sisters.  We can break off and drive the McKenzie Scenic Highway.  This is a fantastic drive, lots of curves and absolutely fantastic scenery!  !!!!!! TREMENDOUS KODAK "WOW" MOMENTS!!!!!!  McKenzie Pass-Santiam Pass Scenic Byway
 
  • "Farewell Backyard BBQ" at the Shilo Inn (Social Hour 6:00PM - Grub at 7:00PM)
The menu for the BBQ will be burgers, brats, dogs, potato salad, cole slaw, chips & desert.  The cost should be $15.00 per person (or less depending on headcount).  The Shilo Inn has agreed to give us a great place in the Courtyard, by the pool, a nice deck and with bar access.  We do need a person count so 
.
 
 
Sunday - July 18th
Owners Lyle & Judy Hicks do a lot with the community & with  car clubs.  A great place to eat, come hungry!  $10.00-$15.00  
 
 
Also, anyone not planning on participating in the drives and would like an alternative activity, here is a list of alternatives and their web sights.  Please let us know if we can get more information for you. 
 
     (1).  GO KARTS  Sun Mountain Fun Center  www.sunmountainfun.com (right across the street from the Shilo-a healthy walk)!!
     (2).  Hot Air Balloon rides   $200 per person/$190 per person with a group of 4 or more.  About 1 hour ride over river, Smith Rock, Ogden Wayside Gorge, Redmond City, all depends on the wind/atmosphere.    web site:   BIGSKYBALLOONCO.COM
     (3).   High Desert Museum  www.highdesertmuseum.org/    close up wildlife encounters, living history performances, art & cultural exhibitions, working century old sawmill,   
     (4)    Lava Lands Visitor Center &  NewBerry National Volcanic Monument      www.fs.fed.us/r6/centraloregon/newberrynvm/ 
     (6).  Ogden Wayside,  (no fee),  ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS VIEW OF THE  CROOKED RIVER 300'  LOOKING STRAIGHT DOWN!!!.  BRING A CAMERA!!!! 
     (7). Peterson Rock Garden   www.igougo.com/attractions-reviews-b106116-Redmond-Petersens_Rock_Garden.html
     (8).  Rafting   SUNCOUNTRY TOURS   Sun Country Tours: Central Oregon Rafting Trips   www.suncountrytours.com  
               Ouzel Outfitters    Ouzel Outfitters - Oregon Rafting   www.oregonrafting.com
     (9).  Wanderlust tours   Wanderlust Tours www.wanderlusttours
    (10).  Kahneeta Resort  Casino at Warm Springs, about 60 miles round trip    Kahneeta Resort & Casino   www.kahneeta.com
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 1/28/10 7:38pm
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First of all....WOW!
You guys don't even need me anymore!  What a fantastic looking agenda! I didn't have any part of creating it. I don't think I could have put together such a great plan.
 
Thanks to all involved in putting this all together!
 
I'm sorry I won't be making this event.  Looks like it will be the best Gathering ever!


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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (3/28)
 1/29/10 5:20am
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WOW is right. IFIN it was not so far I/we would most certainly change our minds. We have made plans for July already so looks like the KIDS will take presidence.  2011 will be a real challenge for the planners to take on.  I am sure M.A. and Mike will do us proud. Cannot wait for that event.  ENJOY

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 1/29/10 8:16pm
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Fantastic job guys. Thanks for doing all the research. I know it takes time to check everything out.
I am really looking forward to this trip.
Any member within 500 miles should be signing up for this.
Don't wait. It will be here in no time.


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 1/30/10 12:10pm
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I agree.  I wish it wasn't a 4500 mile round trip for us.  Really sounds like a great time!

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 2/8/10 8:54pm
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This is a great schedule, thanks for doing all of the work and for putting it together!!  Clap
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 3/8/10 6:49am
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The start of the 2010 Member Gathering is getting near! 
If you haven't read up on it... do it now at the top of this thread. 
Make sure to book your room soon!
This will be another memorable gathering you don't want to miss!


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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (8/28)
 3/28/10 12:37pm
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CHANGES IN THE 2010 GATHERING ITINERARY. 
Unfortunately, the Crooked River Dinner Train has gone out of business.  We had to remove it from  our 2010 Gathering.   I will let you know if someone reopens the Dinner Train and we can put it back on the itinerary.  Too bad, it was really top notch!  A catered dinner, a ride on an old steam engine with a  train robbery.  On a positive note, it does give everyone another evening to experience the old downtown.   We might just  have a nice wind down, sit around, drink some home brew,  get together dinner or BBQ at the Shilo.
Or, If you want, I guess Larry & I could dress up in cowboy hats & boots & rob y'all!!
 
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 3/28/10 5:44pm
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I'm not a real train buff, but I am VP of the Friends of the Railroad, a local 501 (c) (3) trying to promote local train history in our area. So I was looking forward to riding on a real steam engine train.
Is the train still running?
Keep checking.
Maybe someone will run some excursions.
At the very least I will want to get some pictures of it.
Are we there yet????


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 3/28/10 6:36pm
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SOLD - "The Toy" - '70 Convertible
SOLD - "The Beast" - '90 ZR-1 (#682)
SOLD - "Betty" - '28 Ford Model A Tudor
Still have - "BLKBRRD" - '78 Pontiac Trans Am


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Looks like a night opened up for the Go-Kart track...!!!  Tongue  Thumbs Up  Wacko

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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (11/28)
 3/28/10 8:31pm
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I think Mike said they were very close to the Shilo.
2010 Members Gathering Agenda (12/28)
 3/28/10 11:47pm
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Across the road, about 1/2 mile.  I bet Shilo would take you'all  in their Shuttle if in its too fer to walk.
2010 Members Gathering Agenda (13/28)
 3/29/10 3:55am
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RATS!!!!!
 
I am a train buff and was really looking forward to this excursion. I am with Dave in this one.
 
Are we there yet?
 
Wally


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 3/30/10 8:04am
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Aww Unhappy, too bad about the train ride, the wife will be disappointed. NO, really, she loves old trains.

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Just can't wait to get on the road again.

 
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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (15/28)
 3/30/10 9:21am
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[QUOTE=82mike]
...Unfortunately, the Crooked River Dinner Train has gone out of business.  We had to remove it from  our 2010 Gathering. ....
[/QUOTE]

I'm not even going and I'm disappointed. That sounded really cool!



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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (16/28)
 3/30/10 3:35pm
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 I dropped by the Shilo today to meet Carla, Director of Sales, and Susan, Restaurant Manager/Special Events Coordinator & to check out the rooms.   Unfortunately the ladies were not there.  Fortunately,  the rooms were.  Nice rooms, all had micros, refers, coffee makers,  fireplaces and a sliding door to the balcony, (top floor) or to a patio on the bottom floor.  The Deschutes River is just beyond the short lawn.  There are  rooms available with  Jacuzzis/Spas & rooms with a kitchens & a hide-a-bed sofa.   You would have to call to find out what our rates would be.  They also have free Wi-Fi. 
Oh yeah, the Go-Karts are across the road, a healthy walk from the Shilo, but very close. 
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 3/30/10 4:58pm
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Sounds like good times a'commin. Thanks for all the work Mike.

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 4/8/10 4:45pm
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I dropped by Sun Mountain Fun Center today & checked out the Go Karts.  Summer hours are 12- 10pm  or until they can get you off the track!  It is $6.00 per 5 minute run.        mike   

 
2010 Members Gathering Agenda (19/28)
 4/10/10 9:36pm
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   LQQKS like we're going racing ya'llThumbs UpHeartThumbs Up, I'll be there!!!!!!!!!
2010 Members Gathering Agenda (20/28)
 5/30/10 5:44pm
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SOLD - "The Toy" - '70 Convertible
SOLD - "The Beast" - '90 ZR-1 (#682)
SOLD - "Betty" - '28 Ford Model A Tudor
Still have - "BLKBRRD" - '78 Pontiac Trans Am


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I'm pretty sure I have updated all of the activity sign-up threads with all of the folks who have indicated their participation. 

Of note is the change to the Saturday night activity since the dinner train venue had to be dropped.  I did not move the names from the dinner train sign-up so if you plan to attend the farewell dinner you need to sign-up here: Farewell Backyard BBQ Signup
 
So to all who are attending the gathering please take a few minutes and check the activity lists to make sure you are included on them.  There are several where a head count number is needed for planning purposes.

Thanks...!!!

Are we there yet...?!?!?!?


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2010 Members Gathering Agenda (21/28)
 6/3/10 8:55pm
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Well,  this years Gathering is almost upon us.  WOW!!  Is it really only about a month away!!!   Time really does fly!!

But, there is still fine tuning/tweaking to do, (times, menus, prices, etc).  In negotiating the very best value for our dollar, (read cheapest!!), for the dinner & BBQ at the Shilo, and others,  it is  important to have as accurate a head count as possible,  (I do realize the counts will be changing as the Gathering gets closer).  I believe the pricing we have is very good, but I would to see if we can do any better before the prices are locked in.  So, if anyone has forgotten to sign up, or has been planning on signing up for any event, but has been procrastinating,  (that is my wife's nick name for me),  now is the time to 

"COME ON DOWN AND SIGN UP!"  
The more the merrier & the cheaper!!!  Besides, you will have plenty of quality time to sit on your      $%^&*  during all the great drives that are planned!!
 
Also, if anyone has any special needs, concerns, special diets/menus or just questions, about the hotel, Bend or the surrounding area, please feel free to drop me a PM. (82Mike)

See you all soon!!

Mike

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 6/4/10 5:23am
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Are we there yet! Big smile

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 6/4/10 4:39pm
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Mike,
I just found out the "The Steve Miller Band" (16th)  & "The Barenaked Ladies" (17th)
will be in town over our Gathering weekend.
They will be at the Les Schwab Amphitheater at 5:00 PM. each night So the town will be cookin'!
http://www.tickco.com/venue_schedules/les_schwab_auditorium.htm

AND..............................................

Sagebrush Classic
July 16th & 17th
The Deschutes Brewery Sagebrush Classic-where extraordinary golf, cuisine, and generosity meet in the Oregon High Desert. For ticket information and to view the amazing lineup of chefs, go to www.sagebrush.org.


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 6/4/10 5:11pm
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Wow, things just keep getting better. Who would have thought barenaked ladies and the Steve Miller Band, brings back memoriesThumbs Up. If there are others on the fence about going, time to join in. Sounds like a great bunch to travel with:):):)
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 6/4/10 10:02pm
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FANTASTICK!! 
Good thing  we got the rooms when we did.  If you are still on that fence, there are still a few more days to get a  room  at the Shilo  at our discounted rate.  
The BMW Motocycle Owners of America International Rally is in Central Oregon that weekend too.  They expect over 6,000 participants.  Hotel rooms will be getting harder and harder  to find.
What a weekend to be in Bend ! Thumbs Up
 
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 6/15/10 3:59pm
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Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock

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 6/18/10 8:13pm
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SOLD - "The Beast" - '90 ZR-1 (#682)
SOLD - "Betty" - '28 Ford Model A Tudor
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[QUOTE=Norsky]I'm pretty sure I have updated all of the activity sign-up threads with all of the folks who have indicated their participation. 

Of note is the change to the Saturday night activity since the dinner train venue had to be dropped.  I did not move the names from the dinner train sign-up so if you plan to attend the farewell dinner you need to sign-up here: Farewell Backyard BBQ Signup
 
So to all who are attending the gathering please take a few minutes and check the activity lists to make sure you are included on them.  There are several where a head count number is needed for planning purposes.

Thanks...!!!

Are we there yet...?!?!?!?
[/QUOTE]

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 6/18/10 10:03pm
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We are in the process of finalizing schedules, headcounts & menus for this years Gathering.  As Norsky has suggested, please review the agenda to make sure you are not missing something.  Also, if anyone has special diets concerns, you can contact Susan, the Restaurant manager of the Shilo, at  susan.shurtleff@shiloinns.com ( for the Meet & Greet Dinner & the Farewell Backyard BBQ). For the lunches at Mt Bachelor and at the Mohawk, and the Goodbye, See ya Next year Breakfast at Jake's,  please drop me a PM and I will be happy to contact them.    

See you all soon!!
Mike
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